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- Ideologically Sensitive
- Sexual Themes



Response To The
"Grow the Fuck Up" Manifesto
by grow-the-fck-up
Grow the Fuck Up ManifestoWe: the creative, intelligent, self-confident, and eclectic,
...are tired of the "mature content" police. We believe that part of living in the real world is going to be offensive. And, when we are offended, we are brave enough when sufficiently offended, to peacefully and courteously confront that which offends us and try to resolve it on our own; it is our responsibility as human beings to do so.
Furthermore, when it comes to art, we are perfectly capable of picking and choosing what we will look at, and do not need a third party to "help" by enforcing a ridiculous system of scoring images as "mature" or "ideologically sensitive" or "violent."  We think such rules are ultimately pointless and intellectually demean everyone who follows, enforces, or has them enforced upon them. In short, if we don't like your art, we'll ignore it. If we really don't like it, we'll send you a private note or make a public comment clearly stating why. In other words, we don't nee



I: the creative, intelligent, self-confident, and eclectic,


...am tired of people using the word "we" as if they knowingly speak for the majority.

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Now, reading the GFU Manifesto, I won't say that I entirely disagree. I agree that "part of living in the real world is going to be offensive. And, when we are offended, we are brave enough when sufficiently offended, to peacefully and courteously confront that which offends us and try to resolve it on our own; it is our responsibility as human beings to do so."

However, part of our responsibility as human beings is to accept responsibility for wrongdoings. In this case, that would be submitting works to a website that violate the rules that you agreed to abide by when creating an account. There aren't "'mature content' police" simply because there's something potentially offensive to someone on this [or any similar] website, but because, simply put, you broke the rules.

I know. Some people don't like the rules on deviantART, and think that such rules are "barbaric". I myself think that the Mature Content rules could be changed in many ways. But to be absolutely fair, if your art got removed because it violated the rules that you knowingly agreed to...

...you've only got yourself to blame.



I mean, is it really that difficult to follow the rules enforced by such a site? Not for most of the millions of people that accompany this community. But here's what I, as well as many others, believe: if you think the rules are too strict or perhaps even too lenient, and for some reason, you don't think you'll be able to follow them, do the "peaceful and courteous" thing, and don't sign up. That goes for every website, every congregation or community, every state, country or territory in the WORLD. If you don't want to abide by the community's rules, simply don't join the community. And if the community creates new rules that you don't like, leave.

Be mature about it, at the very least. Don't go writing a whole "Manifesto" on the subject, hoping to rally up believers in an attempt to go against what you yourself agreed to do. That's simply childish, like pulling a bunch of kids together to beat up some upperclassman you're jealous of. Even worse, grow-the-fck-up never even gave their name, or their other account's username - they're a ghost, so they don't have to take the heat when deviantART disagrees with them. All we know is that the GFU Manifesto was typed by some random anonymous character over a glass [or perhaps, bottle] of Jack Daniel's, while reading the collected works of an 18th century American political activist, possibly hoping that their attempts would eventually sum up to some minor digital version of a coup d'état. Frankly, it's shameful.

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So all in all, yeah, some of dA's rules are a little off. In some ways, annoying. And you are absolutely welcome to express that in a mature manner. But if you absolutely hate the rules, the solution is simple. Leave the site so that the rest of us can enjoy the community that we all helped build.

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keithdraws Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
But  content gets removed for reasons that are not clear. People need to learn that they can't dictate what others see. Censorship in any for is wrong. 
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CMWVisualArts Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Please note that the following, I say respectfully. I'm just a little cranky at 2AM. 

1. This was made in May of 2013 if I remember correctly. You're late.
2. Quite the contrary - they (deviantART) CAN dictate what others see on their OWN website. Again, is that necessarily fair? That's not for me to say. I'm just saying they have full control over their own website, and even having been here for well over four years, I've never had an issue with any of their rules. 
3. I do agree that censorship is wrong. Fully. No doubt. HOWEVER. The main reason any censorship exists on dA is because it maintains the known quality of the website. Enthusiasts are more likely to invest their time in a website that constantly displays new, wonderful artworks, versus one that displays pornography every five seconds. That, and parents are more likely to allow their young artists onto the site if there's a filter available, because regardless of whether censorship should be morally accepted, as far as minors go, parents have full control over what their children can see. 

So I understand and agree with the underlying message behind the GTFU 'campaign', but the main concept was to remove all censorship rules on deviantART. Yes, that would have it's pluses. But I guarantee, in the end, dA will be overrun and turned into a porn art site.

Thank you for the comment, though. And thank you for being respectful about it. Sorry if I went off topic, again, it's pretty early.
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Moyashi-chan Featured By Owner Mar 20, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I finally had time to read this. (It was sitting in my browser while I was in exams). While I do agree that the real world will offend persons and persons should take responsibility for their wrongdoings, I don't agree on the mature content warning piece.
The time has come now that maybe the rules should be changed but that warning is in place for a reason. I know people who do appreciate the warning as some things will trigger them in bad ways. And especially on a website where the minimum age to join is 13 years of age, that filter should be there. Sadly, people don't use it many times and I'm confronted by porn when I log onto dA (not even artistic nudity. Full on porn). But those who violate the rules should face the consequences and that manifesto sounds like a small child throwing a tantrum.
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CMWVisualArts Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Sorry for the terribly late response, but I want you to know that I agree with you fully :D
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ShadowAether Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2013  Student General Artist
I totally agree with you. I don't really have a problem with the mature content rating at all, with exception to the "Ideologically Sensitive" category- which is just plain stupid. Other than that I like the fact I can see the content if I want it but it's not staring me in the face all the time
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CMWVisualArts Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Exactly. :nod:
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AgentShoemaker Featured By Owner Mar 10, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
:iconclapplz: Well said! Ironic that part of "growing up" is taking personal responsibility and accepting that fact that not everyone has to agree with what you believe to be right, a fact that the author if G.T.F.U. never seemed to consider.
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CMWVisualArts Featured By Owner Mar 12, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I agree entirely.
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kakashi-narutorules Featured By Owner Mar 10, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Agreed.
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CMWVisualArts Featured By Owner Mar 12, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
:nod:
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